Moved from Debian to Arch Linux

I spent yesterday evening and most of today with installing a new operating system on my desktop PC. After years of using Debian on all my systems, I recently became a fan of Arch Linux and made it my new distribution of choice.

Arch Linux

After reading much good about it in Michael Klier's blog, I first tried it on my EeePC a month ago. I was immediatly sold. Arch's approach of not hiding system internals behind fancy installers and configuration scripts isn't the best for newbies for sure, but experienced Linux users like me feel right at home.

Like Debian, Arch has a powerful package management system. But unlike Debian there are no “releases” in the common sense, instead they use a “rolling release system” where new packages are phased in regularly. This is what makes Arch IMHO very attractive as a desktop system.

If you are considering switching from Debian to Arch, here are a few pointers that might help you get started:

  • The apt-get equivalent in Arch is called pacman
  • Packages are built from simple package descriptions much like with dpkg-buildpackage
  • Community provided packages can be easily installed with yaourt
  • There's no /etc/init.d – it's all in /etc/rc.d
  • daemons, network settings and similar stuff is configured in /etc/rc.conf (a bit like /etc/default/*)
  • There's lots of useful info in the wiki

If you're using Arch already, what's your experience? What would you point out to a convert like me? If not, what distribution are you using? Why?

Tags:
arch,
linux,
debian
 
Posted on Thursday May the 1st, 2008 (11 days ago).

Comments

1
Don't do it! I hate Archlinux.... oh... wait
2008-05-01 21:45:16
2
whoah.
2008-05-01 21:53:07
3
I had Arch for a while on my Laptop but got fed up with it after a while. I had to build quite some packages myself that didn't work as they were supposed to (esound was pita) and since I had switched away from Gentoo on that Laptop cause it was too old, I thought that doing heavy compiling on it was retarded. Maybe Arch's packages are better nowadays but I guess I'm somewhat spoiled so I either go the lazy debian/ubuntu way or build a real system in Gentoo.
2008-05-01 21:53:43
4
I use Arch for maybe 6 Month now and I am overall happy with it (as you might have guessed already ;-)).

I've never used yaourt so far though. I don't install packages from the AUR that often, everything I need is either in community or extra, but if I have to install something I usually go the manual way by using makepkg (taking a look at the PKGBUILD beforehand).

Dunno if there's anything else to point out since you use it on your EeePc for a month now ;-).
2008-05-01 23:26:56
5
ArchLinux, eh?  One of these days I should try that.
2008-05-02 01:15:27
6
I've also tried ArchLinux, but there where some things I didn't like and moved back to Debian.

 - Buggy gcc 3.4 (installed the debian package to get it to work)
 - Often looking at tha manpages where you see **info foobar**, AL strips tex info pages from packages.
 - Sometimes I think they are a bit to stormy updating there packages. Evertime I pulled an update the updated pidgin to a crashing version.
 - why the hell are they using an array in ther rc scripts. a simple "foo bar" is also parsable by a for-loop in bash/dash/sh/zsh and so on. but with the fact they are using arrays you cannot switch your rc scripts to a lightweight-shell
 - Some essential packages where missing, still at AUR, and sometimes I can be really lazy  ;-) (okay this point doesn't count)
 - May be I tried it at the wrong time but I needed to rewrite my pacman config, because they changed its format 2 times while I was testing.

There where some other things I didn't like but I connot recall them right know. What I want to say (I don't want do make ArchLinux bad) it's not the distribution which fits to me. Oh one good thing I want to say, you mentioned earlier, the rc configuration, it's a slim distro and backgrounding the services on startup is feature which is okay, but shouldn't be over-used.
2008-05-02 11:58:53
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I have been using Debian for many years. I run testing most of time and I feel like having a rolling release system. Actually, my laptop runs Lenny May-02-2008 ;)
2008-05-02 15:27:48
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